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		<title>By: J Sargent</title>
		<link>http://www.jefke.com/2004/03/10/thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>J Sargent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2004 03:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woohoo!!! My networking career HAS resulted in recognition of some sort!  And all this time I just thought it was a job.  I can&#039;t believe that I won!

 I want to thank all the people who made this possible - all the little people who showed me how TCP/IP works, how to admin a network and how to secure it building internet firewalls. I also want to .... 

Ya - when my cablemodem is on, its ON, but sometimes it flakes out and drops the signal.  Since I live in a pretty low-density area (well its pretty low now, but getting bigger) I just don&#039;t have lots of neighbors using the bandwidth.  Well not right now that is.  I suspect that if I could drop the VPN overhead my softphone would be better.  Alas someday.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woohoo!!! My networking career HAS resulted in recognition of some sort!  And all this time I just thought it was a job.  I can&#8217;t believe that I won!</p>
<p> I want to thank all the people who made this possible &#8211; all the little people who showed me how TCP/IP works, how to admin a network and how to secure it building internet firewalls. I also want to &#8230;. </p>
<p>Ya &#8211; when my cablemodem is on, its ON, but sometimes it flakes out and drops the signal.  Since I live in a pretty low-density area (well its pretty low now, but getting bigger) I just don&#8217;t have lots of neighbors using the bandwidth.  Well not right now that is.  I suspect that if I could drop the VPN overhead my softphone would be better.  Alas someday.</p>
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		<title>By: Natty</title>
		<link>http://www.jefke.com/2004/03/10/thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>Natty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about?  Vonage sucked!!  it was worse than two people trying to talk on a cell phone.  People only heard half of what I said and no one could talk at the same time, not to mention that I missed a lot of the conversation due to them cutting out.  I honestly don&#039;t know how you did not run into these problems, Jefke.  I hate Vonage and I&#039;m glad we no longer have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about?  Vonage sucked!!  it was worse than two people trying to talk on a cell phone.  People only heard half of what I said and no one could talk at the same time, not to mention that I missed a lot of the conversation due to them cutting out.  I honestly don&#8217;t know how you did not run into these problems, Jefke.  I hate Vonage and I&#8217;m glad we no longer have it.</p>
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		<title>By: jefke</title>
		<link>http://www.jefke.com/2004/03/10/thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1395</link>
		<dc:creator>jefke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had the vonage VOIP service for about 8 months last year when i was working out of our apartment, all in all it was a very kick ass service. I was runnind DSL with only 128k upstreat (well about 108 in reality) but even so, there was a bit of lag and apparenlty i sounded like i was on a cell phone, but in the end for the price it was very kick ass.  We were in an old building so to run another line to the NID to get a second phone line would have been 700 bucks or something, so in my case vonage was perfect. I&#039;d imagine it would be totally kick ass with a cable modem. 

but enough of this talk, sarge obviously wins the networking techno babble battle. well played sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had the vonage VOIP service for about 8 months last year when i was working out of our apartment, all in all it was a very kick ass service. I was runnind DSL with only 128k upstreat (well about 108 in reality) but even so, there was a bit of lag and apparenlty i sounded like i was on a cell phone, but in the end for the price it was very kick ass.  We were in an old building so to run another line to the NID to get a second phone line would have been 700 bucks or something, so in my case vonage was perfect. I&#8217;d imagine it would be totally kick ass with a cable modem. </p>
<p>but enough of this talk, sarge obviously wins the networking techno babble battle. well played sir.</p>
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		<title>By: J Sargent</title>
		<link>http://www.jefke.com/2004/03/10/thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1394</link>
		<dc:creator>J Sargent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thought about having 3 philosophy graduates trying to figure out technology.  Thankfully I am better at technology then I was at philosophy.

I have one of those nifty Cisco IP phones in my office.  It works cool - it has wav files of dial tones and the number beeping and all that.  In fact it even has some funny ring sounds (d&#039;oh by homer, and my favorite, the Austin Powers ring).  It works pretty well actually, and similar to the way your webcam chat thing works, except I have an IP connection to a SIP gateway, which then ties into the PBX.  It works properly 90% of the time with no lag (we have a very fast ethernet network and fiber connections between the building and the SIP gateways which plug into the PBX) so I don&#039;t have any of the artifacts that you have.  I just get kicked off VRU systems, which is frustrating.

I also have a &quot;soft phone&quot; to use when I am at home.  Basically, I plug in the USB &quot;handset&quot; and the I VPN into my company and use the soft client to initiate a session.  This works pretty poorly.  The cable connection can handle it, but my pc has to encrypt/decrypt the packets, and I also have to deal with the VPN gateway into the company, and then be routed to the SIP gateway and then to the PBX.  Long ass path to take really.  Anyway - when it works its an engineering marvel, but more often than not I can only hear and nobody can hear me talk.  Maybe that is a feature and not a bug.  &quot;They&quot; assure me that they are working on it, but I don&#039;t think that this is ready for primetime yet.

Third, Time Warner Cable here in Raleigh-Durham is offering VoIP services to replace your home phone for 39.99$ month - unlimited North America calling.  I have heard that it is not terrible, and you can keep your number.  I asked to be a customer, but I live too far out in the sticks for now (although that *shouldn&#039;t* matter)

Lastly, I see that Unreal Tournament 2004 includes a VoIP system so you can talk to your teammates while fraggin&#039; your enemy.  I am the worlds worst gamer, but I do enjoy whippin&#039; some ass once in a great while - I say that we ought to get a philosophy frag session on and see who the king of the geeks is.  My vote is for don-the-coworker (while I don&#039;t think that he is a philopshy gratuate, based on his Depp death threats I bet that he can strafe like a mutha).

JS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thought about having 3 philosophy graduates trying to figure out technology.  Thankfully I am better at technology then I was at philosophy.</p>
<p>I have one of those nifty Cisco IP phones in my office.  It works cool &#8211; it has wav files of dial tones and the number beeping and all that.  In fact it even has some funny ring sounds (d&#8217;oh by homer, and my favorite, the Austin Powers ring).  It works pretty well actually, and similar to the way your webcam chat thing works, except I have an IP connection to a SIP gateway, which then ties into the PBX.  It works properly 90% of the time with no lag (we have a very fast ethernet network and fiber connections between the building and the SIP gateways which plug into the PBX) so I don&#8217;t have any of the artifacts that you have.  I just get kicked off VRU systems, which is frustrating.</p>
<p>I also have a &#8220;soft phone&#8221; to use when I am at home.  Basically, I plug in the USB &#8220;handset&#8221; and the I VPN into my company and use the soft client to initiate a session.  This works pretty poorly.  The cable connection can handle it, but my pc has to encrypt/decrypt the packets, and I also have to deal with the VPN gateway into the company, and then be routed to the SIP gateway and then to the PBX.  Long ass path to take really.  Anyway &#8211; when it works its an engineering marvel, but more often than not I can only hear and nobody can hear me talk.  Maybe that is a feature and not a bug.  &#8220;They&#8221; assure me that they are working on it, but I don&#8217;t think that this is ready for primetime yet.</p>
<p>Third, Time Warner Cable here in Raleigh-Durham is offering VoIP services to replace your home phone for 39.99$ month &#8211; unlimited North America calling.  I have heard that it is not terrible, and you can keep your number.  I asked to be a customer, but I live too far out in the sticks for now (although that *shouldn&#8217;t* matter)</p>
<p>Lastly, I see that Unreal Tournament 2004 includes a VoIP system so you can talk to your teammates while fraggin&#8217; your enemy.  I am the worlds worst gamer, but I do enjoy whippin&#8217; some ass once in a great while &#8211; I say that we ought to get a philosophy frag session on and see who the king of the geeks is.  My vote is for don-the-coworker (while I don&#8217;t think that he is a philopshy gratuate, based on his Depp death threats I bet that he can strafe like a mutha).</p>
<p>JS</p>
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		<title>By: jefke</title>
		<link>http://www.jefke.com/2004/03/10/thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1393</link>
		<dc:creator>jefke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2004 03:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t forget packet routing. the beauty of voice of IP (internet protocol) is the packetization of the data that is the digitization of the voice, file, image, smut, html, whatever... it&#039;s a lot like the whole televisication of the chocolate and kid in willy wonka (isn&#039;t depp gonna be mr wonka in the remake?) anyway...each packet has a unique id, and i can get routed one of a million ways, sometimes they get all out of order as some take the fast lane and some get behind old man drivers like me. the client on the other side, in this case our individual PCs then reassemble the packets in the proper order. 
there&#039;s that and you and I were on Adsl, b, which means our upstream speed is much slower than our down stream. all in all, i wasn&#039;t so bad. 

i still think though that you got off the connection a full 3 mins before me, and somehow i was just catching up. i mean for gods sake you were 6 hours in the future and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget packet routing. the beauty of voice of IP (internet protocol) is the packetization of the data that is the digitization of the voice, file, image, smut, html, whatever&#8230; it&#8217;s a lot like the whole televisication of the chocolate and kid in willy wonka (isn&#8217;t depp gonna be mr wonka in the remake?) anyway&#8230;each packet has a unique id, and i can get routed one of a million ways, sometimes they get all out of order as some take the fast lane and some get behind old man drivers like me. the client on the other side, in this case our individual PCs then reassemble the packets in the proper order.<br />
there&#8217;s that and you and I were on Adsl, b, which means our upstream speed is much slower than our down stream. all in all, i wasn&#8217;t so bad. </p>
<p>i still think though that you got off the connection a full 3 mins before me, and somehow i was just catching up. i mean for gods sake you were 6 hours in the future and all.</p>
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